Military Gaming

[ERASERLASER]

I think ArmA would suit better for simulation, if I was being deployed I would rather be practising my drills and squaring away all the loose ends with my unit than playing a video game, how is playing PR gonna make you any better as a soldier? Infantry units have 'real training scenarios' they dont need video games not in the UK anyway

[Doro]

I completely agree that PR would be a great training tool. I do think Swat 4 would be better for close quarters training though. I briefly played that game a few years ago and was very impressed with it. Stacking up, room clearning, identifying enemies and hostages is definately an area Swat 4 was very good at.

[Rambo Hunter]

Infantry units have 'real training scenarios' they dont need video games not in the UK anyway

IIRC the UK just got a license to use VBS2 as a training aid.

[Spec]

I completely agree that PR would be a great training tool. I do think Swat 4 would be better for close quarters training though. I briefly played that game a few years ago and was very impressed with it. Stacking up, room clearning, identifying enemies and hostages is definately an area Swat 4 was very good at.

Its good but has some flaws. Less lethal weapons are extremely overpowered and make everything as easy as shooting on sight. With time, the behaviour of the AI gets repetive and you know what they will do. I still play it though.

[Zimmer]

Remember they aint really training in shooting and so on. They are mostly simulating and watching how soldiers does the jobs they are tasked under pressure. As its nearly the same whatever game it is as long as it has a root in the reality its okay to use.

[gazzthompson]

? Infantry units have 'real training scenarios' they dont need video games not in the UK anyway

British Army reveals its latest training simulator is based on a PC game | News | Custom PC

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f22-mi ... -arma.html

[Zimmer]

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A game dosent need to be realistic and you also have the replay support that officers and so on can watch. THese will problibly give a better view over what the soldiers did and if it was good in that situation and so on.

So as I said its mostly for cheking out the soldiers mentality under pressure.

[gazzthompson]

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A game dosent need to be realistic and you also have the replay support that officers and so on can watch. THese will problibly give a better view over what the soldiers did and if it was good in that situation and so on.

exactly , think its more about positioning ect and being able to replay and show ever one, and also set up examples easier.

[jbgeezer]

Cant wait for Op flashpint 2 and ArmA 2!

[Zeppelin35]

PR could make money off the mod execpt for the part that it would be illegal. Since PR uses the BF2 engine, they would need to pay for a licence to be able to sell anything they make and all new models would be required since the ones in the game are copyrighted by EA.

Although if the PR team does win the engine for Mod of the Year I could see it being as a possibility although not anytime soon.

[cyberzomby]

What's funny is that I got a school research going on thats called: Simulation and gaming in the army Gotta do a study about that. So this is a coincidence

A teacher was only hammering on the shooting and learning to kill part. What a virtual simulation offers is that you know the situation and the terrain. The dutch soldiers who trained in VBS2 can actually say: Take a left here, a right there and it will get us to the Governors house, when its the first time they are cruising that afghan village in real life. Its because they cruised it in digital life a few dozen times.

Thats one of the big advantages of simulation. Unknown stuff gets known and you can learn and develop an instinct.

Just like who submariners need to know how it feels if they ever need to exit the sub underwater and go up! If you know how it feels like you wont be held back when you need to do it in real life.

[Michael_Denmark]

Project Reality has always been and still is a useful training tool, for various things, not all millitary minded.

PR has potential for developing future possibilities close to its core service. I would say that PR has potential to develop into be a tool only creating the foundation for other historical new core services. Services not existing today.

[Doro]

What's funny is that I got a school research going on thats called: Simulation and gaming in the army Gotta do a study about that. So this is a coincidence

A teacher was only hammering on the shooting and learning to kill part. What a virtual simulation offers is that you know the situation and the terrain. The dutch soldiers who trained in VBS2 can actually say: Take a left here, a right there and it will get us to the Governors house, when its the first time they are cruising that afghan village in real life. Its because they cruised it in digital life a few dozen times.

Thats one of the big advantages of simulation. Unknown stuff gets known and you can learn and develop an instinct.

Just like who submariners need to know how it feels if they ever need to exit the sub underwater and go up! If you know how it feels like you wont be held back when you need to do it in real life.

I actual did my senior research paper about the same thing. I used America's Army a lot in the 20 page paper!

[steve_06-07]

I read on a website somewhere that the Chinese used BF2 as a simulator. They had this room with a bunch of computers on a LAN with Chinese soldiers and one Big screen that the CO used.

[Sgt. Mahi]

Personally I think this thing about armies using games for millitary training is quite stupid. Having been in the army myself as a member of a patrole unit there are just no comparing the real world and a computer game. The orientation sences are so important and is so different between those two things.

Although I guess u could use a game for practicing radio communication. (think - press button - speak)

[spartan117gw]

gaming. great for simulation/ familrization

BUT. its an addition to, not a replacment to mout or the real deal. weight. freedom of movment. and hell good ol pt. and real tactical maneuvers. recoil. put the two together = amazing training

OH YEAH. TO ALL AMERICANS. THANK YOU FOR PAYING YOUR TAXES. cus i get 677$ of em today for jumping out of c130's. =D

[spartan117gw]

dead on. its a training AID. not training replacement. itl give u an idea of what an area looks like. etc. terrain features. how a weapon works. hell when i went to basic training. i could reload the m4 just like in cod4. but dont forget. in the real world m4s weight more then that lil dinky mouse.