Deviation
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Cassius
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Deviation
In real life firefights arent usually resolved with half a clip killing the entire squad, however it was equally ridiculous that in 0.8 a marine wouldnt hit over 70m or so although having aimed for a considerable time.
Therefore here is my suggestion, merge the 2 deviation systems. Make the deviation of the standard issue rifle after a set up time of 1 sec and a pause of 1 sec between shots the same as it was in 0.8 and maximum accuracy the way it is in the curren version, after a set up time of 3 sec and a pause of 3 sec between shots, or something like that.
That way you do not have instant lazors, but when you aim you dont have the feeling the marines traded ammo for beer with the german army either.
Therefore here is my suggestion, merge the 2 deviation systems. Make the deviation of the standard issue rifle after a set up time of 1 sec and a pause of 1 sec between shots the same as it was in 0.8 and maximum accuracy the way it is in the curren version, after a set up time of 3 sec and a pause of 3 sec between shots, or something like that.
That way you do not have instant lazors, but when you aim you dont have the feeling the marines traded ammo for beer with the german army either.
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Jay
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Re: Deviation
Wait, are you saying we have lazors now?
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Cassius
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Re: Deviation
Well within 100m or so you put the crosshair on the head and you hit I guess.
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Jay
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Re: Deviation
I dunno, I never thought of that as much of a problem; 100m is not very far. Plus, I seem to always miss my first shot anyway, the settle time from moving is still really long I think.
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arjan
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Re: Deviation
I like it how it is right now, dont change it again!
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bosco_
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Re: Deviation
I agree that the rifles should be less accurate on great ranges, I had a squadmember shoot a sniper on the Muttrah hotel with his G3 from 502m away. 

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General Dragosh
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Re: Deviation
Must have been a bad sniper[R-DEV]bosco wrote:I agree that the rifles should be less accurate on great ranges, I had a squadmember shoot a sniper on the Muttrah hotel with his G3 from 502m away.![]()
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Cassius
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Re: Deviation
The G3 must have been luck or maybe u did not doublecheck and it was a marksman. Iam not saying to make them less accurate period, just make them V0.8 accurate with 1 sec settle time or so and give maximum accuracy the way we have it in game only after about 3 - 4 sec.
In 0.8 you couldnt snipe a stationary 0.5 gunner with a standard rifle out of a range of 50m after having kept your crosshair on him for an eternity. That can happen if you bring ur weapon up and shoot, but not if you aim properly.
In 0.8 you couldnt snipe a stationary 0.5 gunner with a standard rifle out of a range of 50m after having kept your crosshair on him for an eternity. That can happen if you bring ur weapon up and shoot, but not if you aim properly.
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General_J0k3r
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Re: Deviation
that sounds like a lot of luck to me. i at least cant do such a thing with the g3 consistently[R-DEV]bosco wrote:I agree that the rifles should be less accurate on great ranges, I had a squadmember shoot a sniper on the Muttrah hotel with his G3 from 502m away.![]()
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R.J.Travis
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Re: Deviation
Iron sights are the new snipers.General_J0k3r wrote:that sounds like a lot of luck to me. i at least cant do such a thing with the g3 consistently
I don't know what yall did to the iron sights that's made then so good at long range but I know for a fact I can line up a shot and kill a target at 400+ meters and kill them faster then the marksman in my squad its sad.
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Conman51
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Re: Deviation
AHH!!!..no one can agree on deviation....including me 
i think its fine now..but it should be slightly(like the slightest ever possible) less accurate
i think its fine now..but it should be slightly(like the slightest ever possible) less accurate
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Dude388
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Re: Deviation
My thoughts (and even phrasing) exactly.Scot wrote:You want worse deviation again?!
The deviation now I find fits perfectly.
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ReaperMAC
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Re: Deviation
Meh.... this deviation is only perfect for CQB with the fact that you can actually hit people upclose without a round going vertical when you point it at the guy. The long-range however, is affected by this and now we are almost getting laser-rifles which isn't exactly "realistic."Scot wrote:You want worse deviation again?!
The deviation now I find fits perfectly.
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Gaven
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Re: Deviation
US Marines in real life are trained to hit targets at 500m with ironsights.ReaperMAC wrote:Meh.... this deviation is only perfect for CQB with the fact that you can actually hit people upclose without a round going vertical when you point it at the guy. The long-range however, is affected by this and now we are almost getting laser-rifles which isn't exactly "realistic."
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ReaperMAC
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Re: Deviation
Is that with people shooting at them? Or at a rifle range where all they are trying to do is to qualify for expert marksman every year?Gaven wrote:US Marines in real life are trained to hit targets at 500m with ironsights.

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Gaven
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Re: Deviation
Qualifying, I'm just saying it's not impossible to hit a target at that range.ReaperMAC wrote:Is that with people shooting at them? Or at a rifle range where all they are trying to do is to qualify for expert marksman every year?
Until there is fear of death in a video game, most of this stuff is not possible.
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ReaperMAC
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Re: Deviation
Obviously. You can't even see people beyond, what? 400m in-game? And after that, they are just pixels.Gaven wrote:Until there is fear of death in a video game, most of this stuff is not possible.
Anyways, like I said... ballistics please?

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Ragni<RangersPL>
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Re: Deviation
+1arjan wrote:I like it how it is right now, dont change it again!
Please, don't change it... deviation in 0.85 is something I've been waiting for a long time.
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