Help a complete newbie.

[McBumLuv]

BTW: Good call on asking for help rather than blindly stumbling into the action like most new players .

Don't remind me

But many people have said to join training servers. Well, to tell you the truth, that's the exact opposite of what I'd recommend. To get an actual feel for project reality, you should join a real server in a squad with VoiP. Every good squad leader will let you join and help you out if they can. If they don't though, don't get offended, many squad leaders only want to play with a few buddies, or aren't in the mood to help out. But don't hold it against them.

Once you've finally gotten a taste for PR, and you want to take your experience to a different level, you can try out some of the assets. You rarely need to join a training server to learn about ground assets like APCs or tanks, though there will be many things that you don't learn about them until much later.

If you're eager enough to get into the world of flying, I IMPLORE you to go onto a training server, just to try it out. Don't even attempt it on a live server until you've practiced taxiing, landing, and flying to the point that you are comfortable with it. As said before, hope this helps

EDIT: Also, if you're looking for help in more particular areas, I know =DaM= is offering training to those seeking it. http://damclan.net/modules.php?name=For ... forum&f=42

I used to be with them, and I can tell you they are very good team players, and they know their stuff. Give them a post, and they'll be sure to cater to your needs.

[xXRich07Xx]

Don't remind me

But many people have said to join training servers. Well, to tell you the truth, that's the exact opposite of what I'd recommend. To get an actual feel for project reality, you should join a real server in a squad with VoiP.

That's a nightmare. Server filled with n00bs teamkilling and being Jack^*(^&^ses to abandon. The spawn times may not be like PR, but every single other thing is. Vehicles, kit usage, squad management, the works.

Besides, when noobs start asking lots of questions, I reply "The pr manual is your friend." Not to be a jerk, but who wants to spend every single minute of every round teaching noobs what 's in the manual? I initially help them, but when they start pouring on the questions.... I direct them toward the manual and Training server.

And often, when I say that, I get cussed out by n00b3r5 who tell me that I have no life for reading a simple english/Deutsch manual that doesn't take but 15 minutes maybe to get the hang of it.

Fact is, is that they are often lazy and don't want to invest the time to learn. They just want to rob 1337 v373r4n5 of our knowledge.

Knowledge =/= Learning

[McBumLuv]

n00bs and Newbies are not the same. You can try out all you want in training, but you'll never learn about how to play the game, it's strategies, and issues you encounter on the field in training, unless you've met willing pr vets willing to help out on training servers. As far as I can say, training mode in pr is only about the assets.

[xXRich07Xx]

n00bs and Newbies are not the same. You can try out all you want in training, but you'll never learn about how to play the game, it's strategies, and issues you encounter on the field in training, unless you've met willing pr vets willing to help out on training servers. As far as I can say, training mode in pr is only about the assets.

Newbie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, the assets, which is one of, if not THE MOST important part of the game. Strategies and tactics will develop through use of the assets regardless of a veteran's presence.

After all, we were all newbs once. And trying to say that there were vets to train the newbs originally is a paradox.

[PFunk]

Watch lots of these vids to get a feel for how coordinated squads work.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f112-pr-tales-front/53726-top-100-pr-gameplay-videos.html

[xXRich07Xx]

Watch lots of these vids to get a feel for how coordinated squads work.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f112-pr-tales-front/53726-top-100-pr-gameplay-videos.html

Finally, instead of some futile argument we get some progress.

[McBumLuv]

Rich07, you can keep your opinion that all new players to the mod are unable to operate on the same level as many experienced players is fine. Your opinion that people don't learn from doing is also fine. But they are just that- opinions. I know myself and a vast majority of pr players learned the tricks of the trade before there ever was a "training mode", but that didn't mean we didn't learn who to play, nor that we weren't willing to learn or teamplayers.

But don't flame others for their opinions when they are trying to help by calling them "futile arguments" because they differentiate from your own.

[xXRich07Xx]

Rich07, you can keep your opinion that all new players to the mod are unable to operate on the same level as many experienced players is fine. Your opinion that people don't learn from doing is also fine. But they are just that- opinions. I know myself and a vast majority of pr players learned the tricks of the trade before there ever was a "training mode", but that didn't mean we didn't learn who to play, nor that we weren't willing to learn or teamplayers.

But don't flame others for their opinions when they are trying to help by calling them "futile arguments" because they differentiate from your own.

Your sign up date, August 2008.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f66-pr ... de-35.html

Really people don't learn from doing? I guess you didn't interpret my message correctly. Otherwise I'd be silly to believe such a thing. How do mechanics, Police officers, or programmers learn without doing? I'd have to take myself out back and blow my head off for believing such an ignorant thing.

Learning = doing and gaining experience. Going through the PR manual slowly while playing the game = Learning.

Knowledge is gained when people who are too lazy to earn it siphon it from others. Knowledge is just that, knowledge without any practical experience.

Who's flaming?

The argument is futile. If you took it as a stab toward yourself, then I'm sorry that you get hurt easily. My purest condolences.

This argument currently includes myself and you.

Statement of futile applies to both of us. Sorry that the world doesn't revolve around you =(

I refuse to take this any farther simply because this is not http://www.newgrounds.com or whatever kids use these days.

[McBumLuv]

I'm no longer talking about this ****, mainly because of your arrogance. To underline a few things, your contempt for everyone new, which is what is implied by your attitude towards all those, and I quote, "Server filled with n00bs teamkilling and being Jack^*(^&^ses to abandon". If you've had some bad experiences, that's fine. But from what you seem to convey, its as if everyone asking simple questions that they might not have understood from the manual, or which wasn't even mentioned in it is a n00b unworthy of the attention you've even given them.

You are completely entitled to your own opinion. But if you start denouncing everyone else's opinion, especially when it's the majority, without any evidence to prove it whatsoever,you're just being arrogant.

As to myself not being able to train, I'm glad you noticed my start date. Because of course I only started pr when I joined the forums. I've actually mentioned beforehand that I joined back in early 0.75 days. I'm not holding it agaisnt you not to know, but please don't assume things. But if you can take anything from my start date on the forums, it's that I wasn't aware of there being a training mode until much later.

As an average pub, I read the manual with anticipation as the download was finishing. Of course, that didn't help me with many situations you'll find yourself in ingame. Not even playing on empty servers really gave me any experience.

I'm kinda confused about "Statement of futile applies to both of us. Sorry that the world doesn't revolve around you =(", because it's kind of contradictory, isn't it?

You don't need to answer me, though. Because I won't be visiting this thread for awhile until things change. I'm now actively boycotting it to keep from any other of this degredation.

To anyone else previously enjoying it, I'm deeply sorry if it gets locked, because it'll be partially my fault.

Thank you.

[xXRich07Xx]

I'm no longer talking about this ****, mainly because of your arrogance. To underline a few things, your contempt for everyone new, which is what is implied by your attitude towards all those, and I quote, "Server filled with n00bs teamkilling and being Jack^*(^&^ses to abandon". If you've had some bad experiences, that's fine. But from what you seem to convey, its as if everyone asking simple questions that they might not have understood from the manual, or which wasn't even mentioned in it is a n00b unworthy of the attention you've even given them.

You are completely entitled to your own opinion. But if you start denouncing everyone else's opinion, especially when it's the majority, without any evidence to prove it whatsoever,you're just being arrogant.

As to myself not being able to train, I'm glad you noticed my start date. Because of course I only started pr when I joined the forums. I've actually mentioned beforehand that I joined back in early 0.75 days. I'm not holding it agaisnt you not to know, but please don't assume things. But if you can take anything from my start date on the forums, it's that I wasn't aware of there being a training mode until much later.

As an average pub, I read the manual with anticipation as the download was finishing. Of course, that didn't help me with many situations you'll find yourself in ingame. Not even playing on empty servers really gave me any experience.

I'm kinda confused about "Statement of futile applies to both of us. Sorry that the world doesn't revolve around you =(", because it's kind of contradictory, isn't it?

You don't need to answer me, though. Because I won't be visiting this thread for awhile until things change. I'm now actively boycotting it to keep from any other of this degredation.

To anyone else previously enjoying it, I'm deeply sorry if it gets locked, because it'll be partially my fault.

Thank you.

1. I don't understand why you keep placing words in my mouth. It really isn't becoming of you. I never explicitly or implicitly stated that I have arrogance for all new players. I have stated that I don't mind helping them out occasionally, as long as they don't pepper me with questions.

1. I don't understand what is so degrading. Am I blind? I guess because I don't see any foul language, any "GTFO", or "YOU N00B", or any insults. It really isn't that serious.

3. My statement about the world revolving around you is not contradicting at all. It was directed towards both of us, but you took it as purely your own. The world can only revolve around one person at any given time. So how would it revolve around both of us?

4. Because people don't lie on the internet. Until you stop proving to be such a dishonest and immoral person (slander isn't funny) then I won't believe anything you say.

5. Internet boycotting doesn't work.

7. What majority am I denouncing? Unless you are using a shared account, then I don't seen anyone else debunking my opinion.

8. I don't suggest visiting the politics sub forum if you are so hurt by others pointing out fallacy in your arguments.

9. Debate is just that, debate. Don't have your heart pinned on your shoulder. People will disagree. They will always will, and always have. Leave the emotions at the door please.

Have a nice day. =)

[Spartan0189]

The best thing to do to learn about PR is going to the IRC channel on Quakenet in the channel #ProjectReality

Or just adding some of use PR players on xfire or something

If you want to add me, hit me up on xfire: rustymario

[xXRich07Xx]

Both of you, let's not make the new guy think that PR is full of the pointless bickering that you're both displaying.

Everyone has their own opinions on how to best approach the steep learning curve of PR, let the guy take our advice and see what works for him, rather than you arguing why your strategy is best and the other guy's is futile.

I never said the other guy's was futile. However he implicitly stated that training servers are futile.

You can try out all you want in training, but you'll never learn about how to play the game, it's strategies, and issues you encounter on the field in training, unless you've met willing pr vets willing to help out on training servers.

I never stated my strat was the best, but simply that training servers are NOT futile. And I don't take advice. Stumbling and falling is a good way to learn to pick yourself up. Unless under orders of my Squad lead and NCO's in game of course.

[Koroush47]

Hey Matcor,

I just joined up yesterday and I found that the folks on the Virginia PR server were very helpful. Find yourself a squad with a squad leader who likes to give a lot of directions and like the above posters said just explain that you're new. Follow your orders and you'll learn quite a lot about the game simply from doing that.

I had originally registered on the forums to post a thank you to those folks, but I can't remember the names of my squadmates, so I'll just thank all of you who are patient with the new crowd. Catch you on the battlefield.

Eh, I don't really like those guys.

Some of them are A-Holes and they yell alot. Not very newb friendly...

Golden camel and GIB are my favs. They are nice take it easy guys and they will help you out.

[blucipher]

guys i cannot play the mod! like there is no maps for it. at all! whats wrong? iam a newb and i really wanna try this mod but NO MAPS it would be very nice for anyone to answer this please?

[xXRich07Xx]

guys i cannot play the mod! like there is no maps for it. at all! whats wrong? iam a newb and i really wanna try this mod but NO MAPS it would be very nice for anyone to answer this please?

You need to download the "levels" pack as well.

You have 2 downloads, Core, and levels. Once you download levels, you'll be set.

[Froztbyte]

Yup, PR kicks *** dont it

My xfire is skull939, feel free to add and ask for help