Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

Post by M_Striker »

I KNOW there was a topic in the feedback section of the forums, but my question was not answered there, and i didn't feel like bumping it.

Will the rate of fire be increased when you let's say switch to semi auto on any gun, or a pistol or and SKS? Any gun that is semi automatic, there is a firing delay between each shot, I know some people said to not click ur mouse really fast, and you'll fire faster, but it's still slow. Most semi automatic guns/pistols if not all, can be fired at an extremely fast rate of fire if you pull the trigger quickly. I find this especially frustrating in close quarter combat, when im clicking my mouse frantically, but, i fire only so fast. In RL the rate of fire is much higher. I know this might have been done to "slow down gameplay" but I think it needs to be sped up to how it was in .75.

The question is, will the fire rate be sped up for .85?
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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You can't have a different fire rate per firing mode unless you split the weapon into an auto and semi version.
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the question is why would other than in CQB want this?

deviation you get from repetion of fire from a semi-auto is terrible unless your within 10ft on your enemy.

and personally i find it at a good enough rate as it is.
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IIRC DEVs said that the ROF will be higher for pistols and other semi auto weapons in 0.85
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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Gu^n3r wrote:the question is why would other than in CQB want this?

deviation you get from repetion of fire from a semi-auto is terrible unless your within 10ft on your enemy.

and personally i find it at a good enough rate as it is.
To answer your question. None other than CQB would want this. I'm getting at the point that CQB would what this. For LONG range encounters, go ahead and fire at a slow rate. Increasing rate of fire would not affect the way the gun handles accuracy wise at long range. It's up to the player. The player can fire just as fast as he does in long range encounters in .8 while in CQB we can get fast rate of fire. Understand? It all depends on how fast YOU click the mouse.

@ Outlawz, I don't understand what your saying... What was wrong with the way it was in .75?
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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Well, the ROF was too high. You cant press a trigger as fast as you can click a tiny mouse button. That was to be represented. And I hope they keep a delay, even if a bit faster.
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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IIRC I was told that the delay is there because of the firing animations.
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Spec_Operator wrote:Well, the ROF was too high. You cant press a trigger as fast as you can click a tiny mouse button. That was to be represented. And I hope they keep a delay, even if a bit faster.
Say what?

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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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I wanna see officers running around bumpfiring their M9s...
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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Waaah_Wah wrote:Say what?

Can you find one where someone is holding an actual assault rifle and firing it that fast? Or even better, a soldier doing that.
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A normal M9 holds 15 rounds. That thing looks more like a 93R.

And yes, the video description says M9.
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Post by Liquid_Cow »

Its not full auto, that's a semi AR he's shooting. The point is that IRL you can shoot a semi at ROF's approaching full auto, just as fast as you can click your mouse, er I mean pull your trigger you can shoot. Any delay built into the game is not realistic.
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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ReaperMAC wrote:Can you find one where someone is holding an actual assault rifle and firing it that fast? Or even better, a soldier doing that.
Not THAT fast but here is one:



And another pistol:


Feuerwaffen wrote:YouTube - bump fire
Ahh thanks ;)
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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M_Striker wrote:Increasing rate of fire would not affect the way the gun handles accuracy wise at long range.
where did i ask if it did? i said that firing faster aint going to help unless within 10ft, when the enemy is usally 20m away at least.
It's up to the player.
if its up to the player why ask for an "increase" in fire rate, shouldnt your finger be enough? maybe do some finger exercises to increase its muscle mass maybe.
The player can fire just as fast as he does in long range encounters in .8 while in CQB we can get fast rate of fire.
that makes no sense, anyone else understand this?
@ Outlawz, I don't understand what your saying... What was wrong with the way it was in .75?
where did he say anything about 0.75?

he means you cant have 2 fire rates for single fire obviously, you would need 2 fire rates as exactly like the M16.
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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Waaah, is it just a coincidence that both of those men are using HiPoints? :26_suicid

I agree that there should be no delay in firing semi-automatic weapons, on the other hand, I wouldn't expect you to hit anything that isn't directly in front of you. If people want to spazz-out and pull their triggers as fast as they can, that's fine, but disciplined fire will still tear them apart.

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ReadMenace wrote:Waaah, is it just a coincidence that both of those men are using HiPoints? :26_suicid

-REad
Hehe, no idea what it is :? ??:
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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I think that some people (outlawz) don't under stand is that the OP is asking for the delay before firing to be shorted.
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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Feuerwaffen wrote:YouTube - bump fire
Hahaha you beat me to it! :D
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Re: Rate of Fire on Semi automatic guns

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ReadMenace wrote:Waaah, is it just a coincidence that both of those men are using HiPoints? :26_suicid

I agree that there should be no delay in firing semi-automatic weapons, on the other hand, I wouldn't expect you to hit anything that isn't directly in front of you. If people want to spazz-out and pull their triggers as fast as they can, that's fine, but disciplined fire will still tear them apart.

-REad
actaully since the devs said in the dev journal they will increase accuracy i think it will work preety well

and i dont think teh point of firing faster is actauklly to kill..but more to supress
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