Weapon aiming does not fit reality

[BenHamish]

Is there a possibility to add the weapon sway animation that portrays the amount of deviation/spread?

If I understood it correctly it is not possible to have a sway where the bullets go where the barrel points but it is possible to add an superficial sway that does not affect where bullets go.

Now it feels a bit weird cos you have no idea from the physical cues in the game when you are able to aim the most accurately.

Forgive me if I said something totally stupid, i am not that familiar yet how things work in BF2 world.

No, it's not possible i'm afraid. The animation could reflect the time taken from sprinting to fully settled, but if you only sprinted for 1 sec and brought the gun to bear you would then have an incorrect animation carrying on for 3 seconds un-necessarily.

Good idea though, brought it up myself and that's the reason it can't be implemented ^

[Atkinson]

Oh, now i found that msg.

That's hardcoded, you can make the scope move but it's not linked to how much deviation you have so it would end up being very mis-leading.

Well, if they can go around the hardcoded 64-player limit, perhaps they can go around this one too in the future

[General Dragosh]

Oh, now i found that msg.




Well, if they can go around the hardcoded 64-player limit, perhaps they can go around this one too in the future

I doubt it because BF2 was at one point made with 128 players in mind but they scrathed it at one point and it was never implemented successfully, but its possible to use this feature because it was left in the engine and wasnt removed, well it was still unfinished anyway

So thats how they did the 128 thing, the system was allreay in the engine, but the "bullet goes where my gun aims" is impossible (my guess is) without the original sourcecode because that system is untouchable without it, just like the VOIP system =D

[Atkinson]

So thats how they did the 128 thing, the system was allreay in the engine, but the "bullet goes where my gun aims" is impossible (my guess is) without the original sourcecode because that system is untouchable without it, just like the VOIP system =D

I meant that they might be able to introduce an superficial sway that just indicates the amount of deviation not the "real deal".

[thebeanie]

I used to be accurate at firing.. but the past couple of weeks.. More so with the Auto riflemen kit, If i crouch and don't move the optics.. after 10 seconds i still spray everywhere. A bug or somethin?

[Doc.Pock]

are you deployed?

[Viper.Sw]

The deviation and aiming sucks!
PLEASE JUST ADMIT THAT AND FIX IT!

As far as it is know I think that the AK weapons are the best by far.

[gazzthompson]

As far as it is know I think that the AK weapons are the best by far.

In what sense? deviation? power?

[ytman]

I agree that the AK-74 that the Russians get make me feel really powerful. With the scope it just feels so accurate and powerful...

This being said the smaller higher rate of fire guns also make me feel powerful in urban settings.

[Viper.Sw]

In what sense? deviation? power?

Both.

Also in close fighting auto is overpowered because the semi fire weapons are way too inaccurate to be effective. AUTO > SEMI all day long up to 30m in PR.

[Dev1200]

Both.

Also in close fighting auto is overpowered because the semi fire weapons are way too inaccurate to be effective. AUTO > SEMI all day long up to 30m in PR.

I'll assume you mean 3 burst.

[Viper.Sw]

I'll assume you mean 3 burst.

Either way, both semi and burst mode sux in close combat. I have been playing this mod for years and as this patch goes AUTO really is overpowered in close fighting.
Burst should be a good choice but it has way too much recoil and deviation, so u very likely miss first and even 2nd burst and then the enemy has lots of time to kill you off.
Also one burst isnt even always enough to take down an enemy because the three bullets dont go straight... I thought the whole idea with burst was to give a more powerful hit in the same line. Its not shotgun shells...

[RealKail]

Deviation being the way it is kinda ruins CQC. Often times the most effective way to kill an opponent is to run up on them firing madly without your sights up. I get kills better that way than if I sit there and try to shoot them with the sights up. By the time deviation settles, they've noticed me and turned to shoot. If I attempt to fire when they're turning, I miss and the battle quickly ends with me on the floor.

[BenHamish]

To be fair, I played a lot of Skirmish one night, I forget which server. With sights up deviation is relatively tiny in CQB - I remember being astonished.

It's true about 3-burst though, impossible to stay accurate and inevitably you get one or two shots on target and then they badly wound you before you spam-click enough other bursts to land the killer shot. Not helped by the fact that AK's and G3's do more damage.

That said, the G3 is crippled on Full Auto.. I remember getting killed by an M4 because I failed to hit the target and the recoil surprised me. So it's a bit evened out. G3 ftw however.

[gazzthompson]

Deviation being the way it is kinda ruins CQC. Often times the most effective way to kill an opponent is to run up on them firing madly without your sights up. I get kills better that way than if I sit there and try to shoot them with the sights up. By the time deviation settles, they've noticed me and turned to shoot. If I attempt to fire when they're turning, I miss and the battle quickly ends with me on the floor.

Why do you think it is that others have no problem killing you, but you have problem killing others ?

[General Dragosh]

Why do you think it is that others have no problem killing you, but you have problem killing others ?

Id asume its BLUFOR vs OPFOR weapons and in that situation BLUFOR allmost always win hands down which is ridiculous

[Smiddey723]

That said, the G3 is crippled on Full Auto.

i find G3 kicks *** on auto in CGB

all you have to do is get as close to the enemy as possible and spray from the hip

[karambaitos]

That said, the G3 is crippled on Full Auto.. I remember getting killed by an M4 because I failed to hit the target and the recoil surprised me. So it's a bit evened out. G3 ftw however.

DONT YOU DARE SAY thing about the G3 in CQB its a shotgun

[gazzthompson]

Id asume its BLUFOR vs OPFOR weapons and in that situation BLUFOR allmost always win hands down which is ridiculous

WUT?

QBZ
G3
AK

all of which are EPIC and much better than the m4/16, the SA80 can compete so can the TAR but still OPFOR weapons are EPIC

[cyberzomby]

Indeed! I'm more happy taking an AK47 around a corner inside a house than an M4! Thats what I love so much about insurgency. Getting the other guys get close and than hose 'm down tommygun style