remove ladder sliding

[Rudd]

I think if we increased the speed of climbing down it'll look like the soldier is on some kind of stimulant

perhaps there is an acceleration value to the sliding that could be changed, so that its not immediately 60mph

remember with the vbf2 buildings the ladders are there because there's no internal stairway or whatever, so I think keeping the slide will help prevent people getting trapped on rooftops with no way down aside from a rope.

[dtacs]

How is the slide necessary when one can just climb down?

You can't justify having the slide so you can 'get of vBF2 buildings' when there is the other, realistic option of just climbing down normally.

[Rudd]

You can't justify having the slide so you can 'get of vBF2 buildings' when there is the other, realistic option of just climbing down normally.

sure I can, IRL would you climb down the only ladder when the enemy are shooting at it or would you break into the building's rooftop stairway?

I don't particularly care either way, just putting that aspect of the discussion out there to ensure we cover all the bases of the discussion.

[dtacs]

Ah I misread, you mean using the sliding as a substitute for not being able to get down faster/safer?

Still, that situation doesn't occur often as most squads (mine..) will always have a grapple ready to rock if the ladder is unusable, or staying in cover on the roof is a better option.

[NoobSentinel]

What about getting injured when sliding down from higher heights? So sliding could only be used at the lower part of the ladder.
In a situation like this: player can decide that will he climb down slowly and exposr himself, or risking some injuries and slide down.

Altough it is probably hardcoded,

[Arnoldio]

sure I can, IRL would you climb down the only ladder when the enemy are shooting at it or would you break into the building's rooftop stairway?

Haha i rofled at that comment, but soon realised...

What dumb enemy will go away when you go break into the building? They will be waiting outside and inside for you to come down the stairs or down the ladder, so either way, you are screwed. Id rather wait on the top and defend from there rather than go down. Wouldnt really go up on a high rooftop anyway, its not modern to do that in PR anymore.

Im for the removal of sliding. If you are so tacticool to go on a high ladder, i expect you to be so tacticool that you make it down alive.

And its not even in BF3!

And i think the ladders have that thing that fixes it to the wall once in a while, wich would just maul your fingers. I might be wrong about those thing though, i cant really remember.

[Mantak08]

And its not even in BF3!

did you seriously just compare PR and BF3? i think you need to be taken outside and shot.

[splatters]

I am not for removing the slide for multiple reasons, first of which is that it is completely realistic and not particularly hard to do unless the shape of the ladder prevents it (obstacles) Increasing the climb speed downwards would be more unrealistic, since it is usually faster and easier to climb upwards than down.

Also, how is climbing high ladders unrealistic? I've climbed a 8 storey high ladders with clumsy (though not particularly heavy, under 10 kg) camera equipment just to get the right shot. I don't see how that would be unrealistic in a combat situation where lives are at stake (and if there isn't a stairway available, which is more of an issue of level and object design)

However, some accelaration would be good, at it's current form it is maybe too fast.

[Psyko]

the hotel ladder is perfectly verticle. Is there anyone here who is willing to slide down a 150m industrial style mounted ladder (if they even exist apart from inside tower cranes) if so please video tape it and post it on documenting reality.


What I'm saying is, even if you possessed the physical ability to hold on for that long (which i doubt anybody can), once you get to the bottom your femurs would go through your shoulder blades.

[Reddeath]

Would removing sliding affect sliding down a Grappling Hook?

[Conman51]

Remove sliding, but increase the speed of descent when you climb down.

Was going to say that too.

And i think the ladders have that thing that fixes it to the wall once in a while, wich would just maul your fingers. I might be wrong about those thing though, i cant really remember.

Yea on vertical ladders there are bars which hold the ladder to the wall about every 5 rungs. Making impossible to slide down a ladder with your hands all the way around the vertical parts.

Also, how is climbing high ladders unrealistic? I've climbed a 8 storey high ladders with clumsy (though not particularly heavy, under 10 kg) camera equipment just to get the right shot. I don't see how that would be unrealistic in a combat situation where lives are at stake (and if there isn't a stairway available, which is more of an issue of level and object design)

Theres no problem with climbing. The problem is with sliding. Would you have slid down the ladder in your situation?

Keep the sliding, its a nice compensation for the players since its unrealistic to climb a 8 stories bulding on a ladder. The realistic thing would be to enter the top of the building via stairs inside of the building, wich do not exist in the majority of the buildings in PR.

Cranes. Theres no internal way to go up and down them, just the ladders.

(Gat DAMN!!! Looking at the way I typed back in 2008! :O )

[Rhino]

This is one of the better suggestions I've seen in a long time I must say. I'm surprised it wasn't picked up back in 2008, was probably lost in the flood of suggestions we had back then with the old system.

I can see that this would make things quite a lot more realistic but ye I can see quite a few players hating this at the same time

[Vista]

I sugest making a poll, I am up for it

[Acecombatzer0]

I just really hate that dying on a ladder, even 4 inches off the ground, is an automatic insta-death.

It's within the engine, but really annoying.

[Rhino]

I sugest making a poll, I am up for it

Done.



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[Navo]

When this gets implemented I foresee a situation developing similar to the one when medic self-healing was removed.

[Spec]

Voted no, I'd rather see climbing/sliding speed reduced than sliding removed completely. It's not unrealistic to be able to slide, it's just unrealistic how effective it is right now. It should work, but the soldier who does it should do it more carefully (in game terms translating to more slowly).

[Bringerof_D]

love how the only no option is clearly a "if you choose no you're a stupid noob" option.

I say leave it in the game, however slow the speed of it, and make it if possible to only work for a certain distance in one go. As pointed out one would not do this for a long ladder as you'd pick up enough speed to break your legs. The only way i'd do it is with stopping repeatedly on the way down.

[goguapsy]

What about getting injured when sliding down from higher heights? So sliding could only be used at the lower part of the ladder.

This makes sense to me but, is it possible to code something like this? As in, can you prevent people from sliding all the way from the top and just insta-stopping before they hit the ground?

[saXoni]

How about: Keep it as it is, but it is your responsible to stop every once in a while to:
1) Not break your legs
and
2) Not burn yourself due to the friction